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Well, the title says it all, actually. I've accepted my first job offer (yay!) and that'll involve me moving from Belgium to Oslo, Norway. So if any kind Norwegian soul could help me with some tips and tricks regarding living there, it'd be greatly appreciated!

I know we have quite some Scandinavian folk on here, so... Let yourself be heard! Smile

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1. be prepared for a country that is more expensive than Belgium

2. stay away from all them "party-svenskar" in Oslo (there are a LOT of Swedish people working there, especially in the service industry)

3. make friends with the above "party-svenskar" (as that will be faster than becoming friends with Norwegians :D)

4. and try to stay away from the streets between Oslo S and Karl Johan as they are filled with junkies and Nigerian hookers... or scammers... or both Smile (we tested this last winter by letting one of our troupe fall behind us while walking, and it took exactly 30 seconds before he was surrounded by Nigerian women... Oslo has kind of a problem ;))

I don't remember if we have any "active" TGG'ers in Oslo - but it's a small country, and I'm fairly knowledgeable regarding it (I'm down there 2-3 times a year) so feel free to ask any questions you want... and finally...

WELCOME TO NORWAY! THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE ON EARTH Biggrin

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Welcome to Norway Smile and grats on the job!

I am in Bergen, but always meaning to visit Oslo.. who knows if I go this summer. Will see.

Yes this is a very expensive country, but you should also be getting a very fat paycheck Wink Feel free to throw me questions as a foreigner in Norway. Things that needed explaining to me were f.ex.

* how summer holiday/holiday pay works
* if you are under 32 you can get a bank account that you get tax discount for (for buying appartment eventually)
* you get a discount for tax your first 2 years in Norway, as long as you put in the tax report that you are a foreigner
 

Things that made sense to me, but not other foreigners from warmer countries:
* Yes, the winter is cold and dark. Eat omega3/fish, that helps
* Norwegians are shy/reserved, you need to poke them Wink
 

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I know about the expensiveness: the company told me as much and I've experienced it first hand on my interview trip. 3 euros for a bottle of coke! *dash1* But the paycheck indeed also scales very well, to the point that my standard of living would be at least comparable to my current one and I'd still be able to save money... So just need to keep that in mind when going for groceries Unknw

What/who are those party-Swedes? Just Swedish people working in Oslo over the week and going back home on the weekend? Or do they come only to party (highly unlikely given the alcohol monopoly)?

Also, Mela, what do you mean by a problem? Norwegian guys don't get laid enough? *crazy* Maybe some poking is indeed in order... *diablo*

What is this bank account with tax discount thingy? I know I can claim a reduction of 40k NOK for the first two years that I am a tax resident in Norway and all the years that I have income in Norway but am not a resident (which will be the first year since I'm only starting at the end of August... Need to graduate first!), but wasn't told about the bank account.

Also, how does one go about finding a place to live? And what are the cheapest options of getting around on weekend breaks? Owning a car is apparently not going to happen anytime soon... Those taxes! *shock*

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Party-svenskar... it's a nickname they've "earned" (humorously I believe) because they like to party Smile They live and party in Oslo, and I guess they tend to gather in groups - thus being very noticeable... and as Ura said, Norwegians are usually shy and reserved - Swedes? Not so much Smile Oslo is only 1-2 hours away from Sweden by car (and it's much cheaper booze), and there's a lot of job opportunities for Swedish youth there.

And the "Nigerian" problem (apart from the issues of prostitution) ... well they'd just as soon rob you as sleep with you, and their muscle-pimp is always on hand nearby. Glad that it's not a problem I really need to worry about, but you guys are easy pickings Wink

Ths bus/tubes/trains of Oslo is pretty well organized, to the point where you wouldn't really need a car if you lived "close" enough. It's maybe the one redeeming feature of Oslo Wink If you want a car - electrics are a STEAL in Norway at the moment as there are NO taxes, and no road tolls etc. And no gas of course Wink

The "bank account" is BSU, where you can put 25000 kr/year into a special/locked account and then you won't have to pay taxes on that money. With general taxes hovering around the 40% mark that's 10000 kr/year in tax relief. Only issue is the money can only be spent on housing... downpayment, make-overs etc.

Finding housing can be done through finn.no... if you understand Norwegian Wink Do you know which area you would like to live in?

Lettings in Oslo: http://www.finn.no/finn/realestate/lettings/browse2?areaId=20061

Houses for sale: http://www.finn.no/finn/realestate/homes/browse2?areaId=20061

Where did you get employed if I may ask...?

Finally most Norwegians easily understand English, but it's been brought to my attention that there are a lot of similarities between Norwegian and Dutch/Flemish so hopefully it won't be too hard to learn - unless you get distracted by those party-svenskar Wink

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Well, someone told me that Norwegian is supposedly a mixture of Dutch, English and German, all of which I speak, so hopefully I can pick it up fast and make new friends! Is it true that, like the Finns (where I spent a semester on exchange) you have to get Norwegians slightly drunk in order to get them to have a conversation with you?

I got recruited by Silicon Labs (former Energy Micro) to do firmware and HAL development for their ARM microcontroller line... Pretty sweet starter job, if you ask me. They're located on the upper floor of a business college (Handelshoyskolen BI) in Oslo, Nydalen area. Literally a two-minute walk from the subway stop, so as long as I can find a place with a decent connection to that I'm settled *biggrin*

So it's best to just keep an eye on that finn.no site while summer approaches? I'd imagine there would be a big influx of students looking for decent cheap-ish appartments each year, so how soon would I have to look for one in order to beat them to the punch? *beee*

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Yubb finn.no is pretty much *the* site to visit if you need anything in Norway. Dont know how quickly things go in Oslo but it wouldnt hurt to start looking now and just have a bookmark you check every few days to see if anything has popped in that will be available when you want it to be.. but might also grab something 2 weeks before you get here just as well.

On the subject of getting them to talk, yes drunkeness helps Wink Also for Bergenese it helps to go for hikes with them, or some other physical activity. Though a smile and initiating a friendly chat works fine as well (but then I am an Icelander so I compare our frostyness to their frostyness and find them less frosty Ent )

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Oh.My.God. *help* Well, at least good to know that there *is* a party scene Biggrin

Was the text/subtitles in Norwegian? 'Cause I could understand quite a lot of it when combined with the video Wink

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The text of the video is in Swedish. The Norewgians have "two" ways of speaking one is easy to understand the other way is harder Smile
Hope you get a nice time in Norway and come for a visit to Sweden as well!

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Norway has some of the best heavy metal in the world!  I so need to visit Smile

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